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I would think it has to contribute to the overall sense of disaffection.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere." (But it helps!)
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue May 31st, 2016 at 09:36:59 AM EST
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but I don't think Nuit Debout captures anything but a small portion of it.

To participate in Nuit Debout, you need to have a lot of time on your hands. No children. No job to go to. No need to squeeze some money out of your day in order to pay the rent and feed the kids.

So, it has a certain demography which, unfortunately, isn't particularly credible from the point of view of the average voter or striker.

But yes, insofar as it reflects already present tensions, it is a product of the times.

by John Redmond (Ladybeaterz@NolesAD.com) on Tue May 31st, 2016 at 11:08:43 AM EST
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I just happened to be staying with a friend in the heart of Paris in May '68, and it was very violent, pitched battles under my windows.
From what I see on Italian media of it (there's precious little, don't want any cross-border solidarity, do we now?) the violence is much less still, is that correct?

Nuit Debout seems more cultural than political from here. Disaffection yes, but somewhat amorphous and unpolemic. More a test run to see how many of us we are/could be. After the Hebdo incident, how much right to freely assemble do we have left? If we don't use it, we'll lose it, or forget we can, that it's a defining tradition, a patriotic heritage.
As I understand it, the potency of the '68 riots was due to the confluence of students (60's demographic bulge) and working class unions, a political more than cultural event.
Head-bashing seems to be the elite's answer to both forms of protest, when in doubt...
Not recalling any tractors in '68. Were farmers involved then?
They usually get their way, don't they?
Several factions appear to be simmering, yet all are coming from different angles still, with few exceptions.
It would not surprise me if France were -again- the first country in Europe to throw off the demeaning shackles of modern feudalism aka neoliberal austerity.
It's in their blood.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue May 31st, 2016 at 12:03:41 PM EST
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My (first, we shall see for the following) mrriage was interrupted, in 1992, but tractors blocking the freeways.

Farmers equally blocked the freeways a couple of months ago to protest low market prices for pork and for daily products, but the Hollande government succeeded in keeping them at least a little less discontent via some govenrment funded investment support, as well as some tax abatements/

Back in 1992, it wasn't just the farmers. If I recall correctly, air traffic controllers and/or pilots were also on strike, as was the SNCF, cutting off rail. In any even, if you wanted to make your way to my wedding from any place other than Italy (I was in Toulon at the time) you had to take the side roads.

Fun times.

by John Redmond (Ladybeaterz@NolesAD.com) on Tue May 31st, 2016 at 12:10:52 PM EST
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dairy products, not daily products.
by John Redmond (Ladybeaterz@NolesAD.com) on Tue May 31st, 2016 at 12:11:53 PM EST
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