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care just needs to be taken to do so in a way which doesn't insult certain sections of the population.

Mélenchon was actively trying to beat Marine Le Pen into fourth place, he wanted to beat her, not win enough votes to make it to the second round. And, he attacked her, for nativism and for not being credible on jobs and on the economic front. He was really going after her, personally, at the end.

And I think if a voter has already given thought and consideration to supporting a candidate, only to hear how ridiculous that candidate is from another candidate who is also aiming to get your vote, you are not necessarily doing yourself any favors.

But Trump is a completely different beast from the National Front. A bald-faced demogogue, and proud of it and his ability to connect with the most nativist portions of the electorate. This case is far harder to make for Marine Le Pen, whose growing support is not coming from the "dead-end" demographic as in the US, but rather, the youth vote, where she is doing really very well.

by John Redmond (Ladybeaterz@NolesAD.com) on Wed Jun 1st, 2016 at 04:31:18 AM EST
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Part of Trump's shtick is to be abusive and insulting towards anyone he doesn't like at a given point in time. This is part of his appeal to his supporters, but also makes him fair game for being made fun of in return. Not being taken seriously is probably what gets under his skin the most.

However those attacking or satirising him should take care to drive a wedge between him and his supporters.  Appearing to attack his supporters as well as him is the worst thing you can do if you hope to demobilise his base. It will only consolidate them behind him.

His supporters are probably especially sensitive to being written off as dead end, low intelligence, poorly educated, losers.  Paying them exaggerated (but not patronising) respect whilst highlighting how he disrespects them is probably the most effective line of attack.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jun 1st, 2016 at 07:20:43 AM EST
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I must admit I don't get your argument. When the Le Pens took away working-class voters from the PCF, that included quite strong attacks on the PCF and its leaders, didn't it? IMHO if Mélenchon made a mistake, it wasn't attacking FN and Marine Le Pen itself, but maybe the delivery. Maybe he should have attacked the two main parties more at the same time. Maybe it's as some have argued on ET, that he was to too willing to prepare for a coalition with the PS. But maybe he just didn't found effective enough arguments to show why FN is a fraud on the working class.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Jun 3rd, 2016 at 01:07:42 AM EST
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