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Firstly, if any national movements are going to band together in a common cause, it is more likely to be the extremist right wing nationalist movements in Eastern Europe Austria, Germany, France et al.

Secondly, once you still see democracy and accountability in national terms, you are skewing the pitch into nationalist terms - following beggar thy neighbour economic policies and seeing immigrants from other EU member states as welfare tourists or people taking "our jobs".

The problem with nationalism in general and the UK in particular, is that they have never accepted a European framing for anything, so it's always them foreigners who are the problem, Britain's net contribution but not its huge benefits, common regulations but not national regulations.

In that environment, pro-Europeans are always playing defence. In fairness, most Brits have never seen themselves as Europeans first (or even a distant second), so they have been consistent in this.  They probably should never have been allowed join, but leaving now they're in would be hugely disruptive.

It wouldn't be so bad if a remain victory would settle the argument, then we could all get on with our lives.  The problem is the Brits will go on whingeing whatever and forever...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Jun 18th, 2016 at 10:07:17 AM EST
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These probable reactions on the right are ALL THE MORE REASON for a push from the left for international solidarity, especially in Europe and for reversing the austerity policies that are harming so many people and energizing the right. Point out who is benefiting and who is facilitating those benefits and at whose cost. Emphasize such destructive policies as a race to the bottom. Do not support a return to national currencies which, individually remain weak. Instead push for an alternative currency union run on progressive principles designed to help the average citizen in each member country. Do not believe that the right will not be fomenting right wing crazy anyway. Instead, try to preempt it.

The problem is two fold: the Euro is NOT being managed for the benefit of all and, at present, THERE IS NO LEFT ALTERNATIVE to this situation. Be that alternative.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere." (But it helps!)

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jun 18th, 2016 at 02:39:48 PM EST
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