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Some Progressives are never going to vote for Clinton and wouldn't have voted for her whether Sanders was in the race or not.  

Some Progressives will vote against Trump.

Some Progressives will hold their noses and vote for Clinton.

Some Progressives will work and vote for Clinton.

That's as much as can be said unless someone pays to do some polling on the question.  What Smith's friends and readership of Naked Capitalism will or won't do is the epitome of anecdotal evidence.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Thu Jun 2nd, 2016 at 03:30:58 PM EST
Fortunately for Clinton, Yves' friends are a HIGHLY select group. But Sanders' followers not so much. I REALLY would like to see some serious national polling on this subject this month.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere." (But it helps!)
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 2nd, 2016 at 04:17:58 PM EST
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Undoubtedly Hillary's high negatives are made up of opponents from both left and right. She cannot move in either direction without further alienating those on the other side. Many have already made up their minds and are not for persuading regardless of what she does, seeing her as simply untrustworthy, or not one of them.

However we have to keep some perspective here.  It is normal for there to be intra-party tensions during the primary season, and I have seen comments to the effect that the divisions within the Dem party now are less than they were at the same stage in 2008. What's seems incontestable, however, is that divisions in the GOP are off the scale by comparison.

A lot of wooing and making up and cooling of passions will take place between now and the Dem convention. After that we will start seeing a truer picture of where the land lies.  However what I find difficult to take is Yves' description of her friends as progressives:
European Tribune - Yves Smith On Voting For Hillary

The highly educated, high-income, finance-literate readers of my website, Naked Capitalism, don't just overwhelmingly favor Bernie Sanders. They also say "Hell no!" to Hillary Clinton to the degree that many say they would even vote for Donald Trump over her.

In what universe do they think Trump is committed to reducing income inequality?  Intelligent is not an adjective that comes to mind. Spoiled brats seems closer to the mark...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jun 2nd, 2016 at 04:48:20 PM EST
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Some say that a Trump Presidency might be worth derailing the Clinton Third Way railroad. Others see Trump as the less competent evil. The more clearly one sees the necessity for change in our system, the damage that loss of the rule of law in ANY sense for criminal offenses as it applies to the financial sector, the urgency of mobilizing to deal with climate change, etc. the more frustrating becomes the box into which the Clintons have put the Democratic Party. If Hillary manages to complete two terms she might just take the Democratic Party with her when she leaves office - NOT INTENTIONALLY.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere." (But it helps!)
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 2nd, 2016 at 07:46:39 PM EST
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The way things are going, I expect the Democratic Party to be in the same place in 2020 as the US Whig Party was in 1856: a zombie party already relegated to the dustbin of history.
by rifek on Fri Jun 3rd, 2016 at 07:18:22 PM EST
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For what I recently read of the early US history, partisanship and party stability were amusing right from the 1790s. Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans were better organized on all levels, somewhat contrary to their local political philosophy. Their blanket support for the French Revolution turned embarrassing, yet the Federalists showed more talent for self-destruction with the Alien and Sedition Acts, friction between Adams and Hamilton. The fatal Burr-Hamilton duel, then Hartford Convention gradually pushed the Federalists into oblivion - except in the highest courts, where they redefined the judiciary as the arbitrator of contracts.

The tragicomedy of Whigs was largely in their refusal to nominate "looser" Henry Clay in their most promising years, 1840 and 1848. Clay sabotaged himself by impulsively declaring "I had rather be right than president" in 1839. The Whigs ran with "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too" in 1840, that is, a war hero Harrison and (for the Vice-President) Tyler. Harrison died after just a month in the office, and Tyler turned out to be very obstructionist towards Congress Whigs. In 1848, another war hero Zachary Taylor was nominated - and he suddenly passed away in the office as well. The ascended president Fillmore was not effective in preventing deepening divisions between the North and the South, and within the Whigs.

During the Bill Clinton presidency, I found the Republicans ridiculous with their impeachment. But then Gore, Kerry were effectively careful not to win. If Hilary Clinton will turn out to be a fraud candidate, the Democratic Party might indeed dust away in the next years.

by das monde on Sat Jun 4th, 2016 at 01:46:41 AM EST
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In what universe do they think Trump is committed to reducing income inequality?

Given that the simile used was "gnawing off your leg to escape a trap", I'd say your characterisation is a bit  uncharitable.

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by generic on Fri Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:26:10 AM EST
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I'm one of the Naked Capitalism readers Yves is referring to (albeit well below the median income).  I shall not be voting for Trump; I leave that to my parents and sister.  But I shall not be voting for Clinton either.  I've dutifully held my nose and voted for the corporate tools the DLC/DNC has selected for us, and I shall do so no more.
by rifek on Fri Jun 3rd, 2016 at 07:16:02 PM EST
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What state are you not voting for Clinton in? I probably won't vote former  either, but she's leading (Trump, not Sanders) by such a large margin that it's unlikely to matter.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Jun 4th, 2016 at 06:58:01 AM EST
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I'm in Utah.  If you don't vote R here, you're throwing your vote away anyway, so I'm sticking with my conscience.  I'm voting down-ticket, but not the top.
by rifek on Sat Jun 4th, 2016 at 11:22:09 AM EST
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