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But I see both Bill and Hillary as "Realists" (rather than ideological neo-liberals) in the political philosophy sense of that term. That is they work within the parameters of what is doable given the nature of the system, the positions of the major actors, and the state of the electorate at any given time. Given Citizen's United and the total domination of the US by corporate interests, that means that the range of possibilities is pretty dire at this time. Things have come to a sorry pass when we praise Obama for not actually starting a major war during his terms.
Given my "systemic" perspective, I don't see that Sander's could do much different from Clinton, whether he wanted to or not. In fact Clinton could probably achieve more in a practical sense because she has more of the major players on her side, and they would probably accept more change if it was coming from her.
But the main challenge for progressives is to move the Overton window of what is deemed to be doable as far to the left as possible. This means taking over congress and as many state houses and legislatures as possible, reversing the gerrymandering and voter suppression, and building an organisation which can produce better candidates and policies for the long haul. I see this as an exhausting and exhaustive long term process building a political organisation from the grass roots up. I hope Sander' partisans are up for that fight, because I think one of Obama's major mistakes was to effectively disband his OFA organisation once he took office.
If Yves' "progressives" really wanted to make themselves useful, they would use their collective financial clout to take over as many media organisations as possible to mitigate the GOP's advantage there, and to reduce the influence of corporate USA in general. But that, too, would require hard work, financial muscle, and perhaps some real sacrifice. No political organisation that ever achieved anything did so without a lot of hard work and sacrifice by a lot of people. (I have a lot of friends who sacrificed a lot for the anti-Apartheid movement in SA and abroad). Yves' friends whingeing and weeping into their cocktails on a Friday night doesn't cut it.
Whatever else you might say about the Clintons, they have demonstrated a capacity for hard work and staying power against some formidable obstacles. They have had to be pretty ruthless on occasion, but anybody who thinks they can become POTUS by being nice all the time is deluding themselves.
Index of Frank's Diaries
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