Welcome to the new version of European Tribune. It's just a new layout, so everything should work as before - please report bugs here.

Welcome to ET 2.0

by Colman Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:37:56 AM EST

We're still moving the furniture around, but everything should work pretty much the same as before - it's just a reskin of the underlying software, not a change in software.

Please report bugs here.


Display:
Yup, it seems to work...

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:38:43 AM EST
Virtual hi-five. Please consider that I've bought you a virtual beer.

Now I'm entitled to complain :

(i.e. proactive betatesting etc...)

Funny stuff with the Tribext plus-four button : "+4" doesn't display in the listbox until a comment has been +4'd; and it seems to do a page reload instead of a javascript update.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:49:13 AM EST
Tribext will require an update.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:50:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Clever fellow.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:10:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh, ok. Must have been funky caching stuff then, since I haven't done anything to it.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:12:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Work on Tribext will be necessary. (Future tense).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:15:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, I have been able to hand out 4's on this thread and it seems to work. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:16:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The +4 works all fine for me...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:31:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"+4" doesn't display in the listbox until a comment has been +4'd; and it seems to do a page reload instead of a javascript update.

i used to get that bug fairly often, it would repeat the same tomfoolery several times in a row then mysteriously sort itself.

damn blogging at ET without tribext is like having one hand tied behind your back.

the sound of one handed clapping proceeds unchecked.

whaaaa... why can't FF work with ET, <sob>


"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:52:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Try clearing cache and history on FF.

As far as I can see, FF users, me included, aren't having this problem.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:55:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There are a number of issues that people are seeing that are probably down to caching - all the ones that are resolving themselves without me or you doing anything about them.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:59:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
clicking on the ET Icon on the front page doesn't re-direct to home in Firefox, rather the windmills dissappear and the icon bounces halfway across the page

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:55:42 AM EST
Yep, getting the same bug.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:00:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Cool. I may leave it like that!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:03:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
LOL. And apparaently I have no problems with the +4 button
by Katrin on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:06:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Indentation doesn't work in the parent comment display.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:10:03 AM EST
about aesthetic matters, I feel obliged to state that I'm a conservative. I never like Madame's new haircut. Then after a couple of days it's fine.

...So perhaps I should just shut up now.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:13:39 AM EST
And my main concern has been to make it easier to read. In particular, to make long articles easier to read. There's a few pages where the text is too small.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:21:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Haven't had time yet to go through all, but first impression is GREAT!
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:14:27 AM EST
Html parsing: the paragraph tag <p> acts like a <br> ie doesn't insert a line feed between paragraphs.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:17:18 AM EST
Are you closing it? <p></p>?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:18:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No, doing what used to work (but is frowned upon). This means the rools are being applied? <gasp>

Also unordered list <ul></ul> isn't producing bullet points.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:31:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]

  • asdsds

  • asdsa

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:54:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]

<p></p> isn't working either.

I'm opening and closing each line in this HTML formatted comment

But no line feed.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:41:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, but that's cheating. Preview showed no line feed, but then they appeared on Post.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:42:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Must be missing a selector in the stylesheet. Will find.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:53:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
HTML parsing: ∗bold∗ works, but _italics_ doesn't. It works using <i> but not using <em>.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:49:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Hallelujah!

By the way, I like this new design... ;-)

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:42:50 AM EST
Strange.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:16:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Working. Looks OK I guess.

Is the total width of #container fixed/hardcoded to a certain number of pixels?


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:24:33 AM EST
Yes, at the moment. It was enough work just to make Scoop do this. Fluid layout is coming though.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:39:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
When you look at comments as here you lose the nested indentation of replies.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:47:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Also, when you look at comments as here parents (and the diary) are kerned left and disappear under the margin whitespace.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:48:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
i.e. not for me.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:58:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Browser?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:00:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Both internet explorer and safari.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:38:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
IE 8.0

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:44:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That under IE. Safari is okay.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:39:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm using IE8 now, and it's not happening. But yours is surely a later version.

Safari is OK

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:46:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Mine is probably an older version, so it can probably be safely ignored.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 07:48:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Cool. I don't envy you that job.

(You will have seen the


 
 
 
CSS
IS
AWESOME

picture/mug/tee shirt. Pretty much how I feel about HTML.)

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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:19:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Though, thinking about it, I'm not sure what I'd do with a fluid layout since I don't really want to stretch the main column to fit, which would mess up the text measure. The right hand column could use more space, I suppose.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:33:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In the body of existing diaries the red boundary line on the left is directly adjacent to the first letter of each line, which seems distracting. It seems other boundaries have at least one space between the line and the text. Picky, picky, I know.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:33:13 AM EST
The red boundary is put there by TribExt, this will need fixing there.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:06:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks. I presume that the above comment was in reply to my comment, but it came up without any indentation to indicate nesting. I see nesting on other comments. Is this also a TribExt issue?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:20:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Funny! As soon as I posted the posted version shows proper indentation.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:21:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
you get a page containing the diaries published by the user, and nothing else concerning the user (which is a bit confusing if they haven't published any diaries)

i.e. (at a guess) there isn't a proper "user page" template yet.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:35:24 AM EST
clicking on a user's name goes to the "user's diaries" page, with no obvious indication that this is what it is

whereas it should presumably go to the user's profile page, i.e.
http://www.eurotrib.com/user/eurogreen
instead of
http://www.eurotrib.com/user/eurogreen/diary

... and the /diary template needs a cleanup.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:03:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
i.e. we no longer have access to a page with info about a user, other than typing the URL manually.

How about a wee fix?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 10:10:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
C'est vrai!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 10:11:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You'd be surprised by the number of my acquaintances who were out off ET by what they thought was an incomprehensible/unattractive look and feel. I hope this new look will help change the perception that ET is for geeks.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:39:03 AM EST
Clicking on my comments jumps to Booman comments

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:47:47 AM EST


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:53:18 PM EST
Splat!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:57:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
i can access it in chrome, and it works on safari on the iphone, but FFis redirecting me to booman, as it has been all day.
nice of you to send them traffic while arranging the furniture, thunk i.

now i wonder was it a glitch, lol.

i''ll try rebooting FF and report back...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:18:37 PM EST
no FF is still sending me to boo. ET works in safari on the macbook too.
nice to have a change of skin

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:21:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
FF works fine for me.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:45:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
and for me
by Katrin on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:57:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
i guess it's regional server based then?

weird, i tried rebooting FF and it routs immediately to booman still.

would tweaking FF prefs help?

until tribext is ready it's not a problem to stay with chrome or safari, both are snappier anyway lately, tho i haven't done the latest FF update, they come so often.

mind you it could be something off the wall. i remember that till this year i couldn't ever post a comment unless it was a reply to someone else's comment. that was hella frustrating, and it suddenly worked properly with no tweaks on my part.

computers are most unlinear machines ever, but you all must know that better than i do!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:40:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Works on Safari on Mac.

How do I see my recent replies? In the old version I could click on my username and see them...

by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:56:22 PM EST
Oh I see now. Wasn't logged in before.
by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:57:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Helen's beer bar will open...eventually.

There is a problem apparently and I can't post in it, which is a bit of a nuisance

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 01:59:58 PM EST
Looking forward to your column.

The beer-related excitement today in Colorado Springs is that the Manitou Incline, an abandoned funicular railroad, has been formally abandoned and the ROW converted to a running track. Which it has unofficially and illegally been for a couple of decades.

So naturally the nearby brewery is hosting a celebration!


by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:59:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wow, never tried to post a tweet before. Looks like the links are live...
by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:05:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In general I like it. In particular I like moving the open and news threads of the front page and into their own segment. Gives more space for frontpaged articles.

I guess we still can not change the name "diaries" to "articles"?

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 02:04:11 PM EST
It's hardcoded some places, so it just gets confusing.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:05:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
An issue I suspect is for the TribExt update. When I open a thread with new comments the red outline cuts away a couple of millimeters of the white-space so that the red line touches the text on the left. Does not look nice, but if anyone is looking at TribExt do chexk if this is easy to fix.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 02:07:55 PM EST
Moar.

When I click on a user name I come to their diaries http://www.eurotrib.com/user/uid:2614/diary leads to ArGeezers diaries. But the top bar with the option of checking their comments is missing. On the other hand if I type http://www.eurotrib.com/user/uid:2614/comments I get both ARGeezers comments and the top bar with Info Diary Comments Ratings Stories. This is particularly confusing if you click a user that has no diaries.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 02:14:00 PM EST
The Search page doesn't contain the link to the Scoop Search function as it did not long ago.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 02:37:32 PM EST
Nope, my comments don't seem any smarter (Safari/OSX), so there's probably a bug.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:52:41 PM EST
I'm withholding comment until I work around a bit, to see the comfort zone. First impression is it's certainly an upgrade.

On Safari/OSX, Sven's comment seemed much smarter to me. Perhaps that's a bug in my cranial software.

I will welcome the day when the site width becomes variable with window size again, per Colman.

And i'll look forward to the day when Scoop is history.  But i'm truly appreciative of the time and effort to make the upgrade, Danke, merci, thanks.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:23:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, there must be a problem with the "IntelliSvense" macro in TribExt.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:12:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
There appears to be some dodgy legacy coding from the Sixties, man.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 11:30:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It doesn't look right in Chrome. Colours are wrong, there are frames round the middle and right columns. Unless my Chrome is no good.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:58:05 PM EST
Chrome is crap according to my coding contacts.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 04:45:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
<installs newest version>

Looks fine to me. Update Chrome?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:27:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Programmer quote: Got "kind of" tired of Chrome hanging on browser restart. Ok, I had multiple windows/tabs open and the culprit is most likely flash/shockwave but still... a browser should not hog several GBs of memory and cause a 13" retina MBP go on its knees with all 4 cores on red for x amount of minutes. Only a limited number of the pages that were open were actually multimedia intensive.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 11:32:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
<installs newest version and is told it is the very latest and in fact it's the one I had...>

Still exactly the same for me. Horrible.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:27:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The gray background box on the top right contains a link to this page, but with the pre.eurotrib.com FQDN:

http://pre.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001

instead of:
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001

TribExt doesn't work there and when you click on the Home link (not the bouncing box), you get to an  "pre.eurotrib.com" version of the site, something like an alternate reality Eurotrib....

I like that the indentation is smaller: that will allow to better follow long comment threads who tend to crowd on the right hand side.

Any way to get rid of the two gray bars on each side? Or adjust their sizes? I have an old 4:3 monitor and this is taking a good chunk of usable area. The diaries and the comment are squeezed into barely 60% of the (admittedly limited) screen width.

(Waddya mean, get yourself a real monitor?  :-)

by Bernard on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:34:10 PM EST
The link top right now leads here to everyday reality, not to ghost town.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 01:46:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
not really a bug, but since the furniture in in flux, would there be a way to reach a salon or OT straight from a diary, w/out having to go to the homepage first?

nice to see the FB etc buttons too, well done!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 06:02:07 PM EST
  1. The numbered points in my diary - The Trillion $ Coin are buggered
  2. Don't like having to scroll all the to bottom of diary to recommend it as I often make up my mind later
  3. Just testing numbered points here


Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 07:04:37 PM EST
  1. Have tried to fix numbered points by editing out the li value stuff, and it partially works - doesn't indent full point if sentence longer than one line.
  2. Don't fancy re-editing 274 previous diaries!


Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 07:11:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There's a problem with ordered and unordered lists (numbered or bullet-pointed).

Best not to edit out the markup for now, till Colman's worked out why this is happening.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 01:40:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is it possible to make the font smaller?
by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 10:03:58 PM EST
Smaller? So that we have to enlarge even more?
by Katrin on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:19:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Control-Minus in Firefox

(But you knew that.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:15:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Why?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:07:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Come out at about 70 characters and 10 words per line in a story on my browser, with a decent line-spacing and a readable font. Which fits well enough within the standards for good readability.

You can always override the stylesheet for the site in your browser settings . I could rough out an override if there are many annoyed people.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:52:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]
If I click on a story on the front page, the story body text on the page displays as Helvetica 15 on a stock Safari screen. That is pretty big.

On the comments editing page, the text is showing as Helvetica 11, which is sort of small--but ok for me.

The text "The Trillion $ Coin" on the right panel displays as 14 bold with wide spacing.

by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:03:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
How many words per line are those stories?

Yes, some of the sub-pages need the fonts tweaked up a bit.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:18:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Looks like about 90. On the coin story, this much is on the first line with just a bit of space left:

I've been reading about and advocating the Trillion $ Coin option as a means of avoiding

by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:43:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'd argue that most web-site fonts are far too small.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:22:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is there a subtext here about ageing readership?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 05:36:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Also there was supposed to be a line feed after the word "big" in the previous reply...
by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:40:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well spotted. It's not wrapping the first bit of text in

.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:50:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
everything works now yaya!

woke up to snow all around and ET< FF and tribext all playing nice together.

it's a beautiful day in cyberspace/

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:14:58 AM EST
My favourite type of bug is the type I can fix by going to Tai Chi class and bed.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:10:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
melo:
everything works now yaya!

woke up to snow all around and ET< FF and tribext all playing nice together

Hope they still do even if it thaws. :-)

by Katrin on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:56:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
so far so good, 90% melted. :_

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:52:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm maintaining a list of issues here.

I'm experimenting with Trello for this sort of issue tracking.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:10:23 AM EST
( x < y )
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:41:01 AM EST
As easy as.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:43:28 AM EST
$$ \pi $$
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:43:46 AM EST
We have TeX!?

Yippeeee!!!!!!

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:46:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
$$ \sum_{i=1}^{10} x_i $$
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:44:48 AM EST
[ \pi ]
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:46:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
\[ \pi \]
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:46:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
\[ \pi \]
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:47:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
\[ \sum_{i=0}^{10} e^i \]
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:48:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Embedding maths now works - see MathJax documentation for more information.

I've turned off using $ and $$ as delimiters, so you have to use \ [ \ ] and \ ( \ ) instead. You also need to use either "Plain text" or "HTML Formatted" for your comment.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:58:58 AM EST
I look forward to the horrors that this will lead to!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:59:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I will understand none of it, but admire the elegance.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:04:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It's beautiful typesetting.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:08:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Let's see \( \dots \)

According to Yves Smith (Econned, p.149) a trader actually sold a financial instrument with a guaranteed return of

\[ \max(0, \mathord{\hbox{NP}} \times 7 \times ( (L^2 \times {1 \over L} ) - (L^4 \times L^{-3})) \times {\mathord{\hbox{days in the month}} \over 360 })\]
where \(\mathord{\hbox{NP}} = \$ 600 \) and \( L\) is the 6-month dollar LIBOR rate. (Somebody actually paid \( \$ 4\times {10^6} \)  a month for 3 years for this).

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 07:35:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Things that look differently in preview and when posted.

e.g.

  • Asterisk for bullet point
  • Too lazy to look for other things


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:00:24 AM EST
  • Right
  • Any better now?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:17:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Can you fix eurogreen's laziness through the style sheet?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:22:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
* laziness is my style.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:45:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
  • laziness
  • is my
  • style

Yes, that's better.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:46:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
\[\lambda\alpha\zeta\iota\nu\epsilon\sigma\varsigma~\iota\varsigma~\mu\upsilon~\sigma\tau\upsilon \lambda \epsilon\]

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:51:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Shouldn't that not be in italics?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 08:14:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or

\( \begin{array}{ll}\bullet&\hbox{laziness}\\ \bullet&\hbox{is my}\\ \bullet&\hbox{style}\end{array} \)

Though this is probably not the best way to do it \(\dots\)

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:56:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
They seem to address a lot of the issues people are having.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:18:25 AM EST
Under IE 8.0, I continue to not see comment indentation if I look at comments through the comments interface as in here.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:21:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Make sure you force it to reload the stylesheets.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:23:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Right. A manual 'Refresh' reloads the style sheet, and fixes the problem.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 06:24:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
and I know full well that this has nothing to do with the re-skinning (la piel que habito),

but I've been getting infrequent occurrences where the page loads without any comments at all (everything else is there, headers sidebars etc)

and if I reload it, it displays correctly but of course none of the comments are flagged as "new".

Does that make any sense to anyone?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:55:01 AM EST
Yes, it's been happening occasionally to me.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:13:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
and to me. All day in fact.
by Katrin on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:31:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Same here, but only every once in a while.
by Bernard on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:37:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Has happened to me for some time. Though only once in a while.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 02:12:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Image at 600px width in Recent Comments:

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:22:51 AM EST
Fixed.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 12:43:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Looks good on my mobile - very impressive and much more readable...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:46:07 AM EST
good job, Colman, my eyes are much happier with the overall look, especially the text ids much cleaner and crisper. a pleasure jeje.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 09:55:28 AM EST
sdsa
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:18:49 AM EST
Em fixed
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:20:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I am unable to find the box with links to the New User Guide, the list of all users, etc. This makes it difficult for me to provide links in the way in am accustomed. Am I missing something obvious?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:48:38 PM EST
Its on the top of the page between 'search' and 'about'. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:51:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Found it under the Admin tab at the top.  :-)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:53:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The User Guide is in the menu at top of page.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:59:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Drat! Having to actually read all those labels.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:56:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:04:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Guess I needed a smiley face. Self deprecation?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:46:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not wanting to belabor the point, but the gray bars on each side of the page are eating up a good third of the screen, even though I'm using a 22" monitor (resolution 1680x1050, FF18.0 under Win7). The diaries text are squeezed into barely one half of the screen width.

Any way to adjust this?

by Bernard on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:43:29 AM EST
They're two thirds on my 27" if I was insane enough to run Safari full screen!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:55:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
However, I'm actually wondering what to do with the extra space.

Simply expanding the width of the article text isn't terribly useful, since you just end up with unwieldy text widths.

I could set it up to increase the font size to maintain the text measure, but then you'll have very few lines per screen.

Thoughts?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:56:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
but of course you're stuck with a population of users who are, by their very nature, unsatisfied and unsatisfiable. There MUST be a better way! There simply MUST!

I'm sure someone must have done a fisking of web site layouts in function of ideological orientation.

  • Libertarian sites : highly user-configurable (colours, fonts, diary lists...) to the extent that every user is seeing something different, and there is no commonality at all.
  • Authoritarian sites : Fixed everything, set up for a 640x480 screen and never redefined.

Etc...

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 08:04:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Perhaps replacing the grey with some pretty picture would satisfy? Making it look more intentional and less wasted space.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 02:15:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
control-plus to make your font bigger... the bigger the text the less grey padding.
i.e. the display width is fixed in terms of number of characters displayed, and is padded out to the width of your window.

Any other solution means you lose most of the control over layout.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:59:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
eurogreen:
the display width is fixed in terms of number of characters displayed, and is padded out to the width of your window.

<fiddles with the FF window width to see how it changes>

Ah, OK: I get it now. The "fixed number of characters displayed" rule is not bad at all, actually; keeps the reading pleasant.

My regret then would be that the very long comment threads (like in this diary) apparently cannot use more space on the right and extend up to the right hand gray bar. The "old layout" seemed to me more flexible in that regard (or was it?).

by Bernard on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 04:46:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Honestly, I think that thread was harder to read in the old format. Some of the very long subthreads got squinched up to the right so the comments were hard to read. They're easier now. It seems to me.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 04:58:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
All right: I guess we'll have to try it out, see how it feels after a while...
by Bernard on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 06:07:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The much smaller indentation on comments helps a lot there.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:04:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
While there's no question the upgrade is an upgrade, i still miss the dynamic width. i do use safari wide screen (to handle many tabs), and the auto width functioned one-wall-free (flawlessly.) and yes, the new indents do seem to make it more readable. for me it's always been hard to find exactly to which comment a reply belongs, but then i'm an arachnid.

if the grey bars become a photo, then we're in twitter land, in which i think i might still choose grey bar.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 06:51:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by redstar on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 09:23:53 AM EST
now seems to force a page reload. I hate this viscerally, it's completely nonsensical for almost any site not actually doing a financial transaction or whatever. (I'll check if I didn't just hallucinate it...)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 09:25:44 AM EST
And I hate it. Hate hate hate.

(And I'm really not a hating person. Come to think of it, it's mostly technology I hate.)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 09:28:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Mine loads the previous page. I just love how it does that.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 09:37:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I don't think it's doing anything special that should cause a reload. Re-running JS maybe?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 07:05:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What I want to happen when I push the back button is to redisplay the previous page from my browser's cache. What it seems to be doing is re-executing the URL, server side. This is definitely a bug, unless you can explain why it's a feature!

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 03:40:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
i.e. after posting the above comment, then clicking the back button twice, I can see the thread with my new comment, flagged in red as "new".

Come to think of it, that is not correct at all, because I have already viewed the thread after posting said comment, so it should no longer be "new", if it is re-executing the original URL of that page.

Yeah, javascript.

OK, I'll be a disciplined user and explain why the changed behaviour is a problem for me :
When I'm reading the new comments in a thread, sometimes I post a reply, then flick back to where I was, so I can go to the next "new" (unread by me) comment. This is no longer supported, apparently.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 03:48:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
After posting the above comment, the URL is :
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001#161

After hitting the back button twice, the URL is :
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001

and yet it displays (in red) comment 161, which shouldn't exist in that version of the page.

Perhaps we've discovered a wormhole in the space-time continuum. The consequences could be devastating : instead of just looking at the past, I'm going back to the past and changing it.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 03:53:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
but if it's not bothering anyone else, please don't lose any sleep over it (or tai chi lessons!)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 03:54:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Replying to this to test.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 04:08:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
OK, bad test, new one.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 04:09:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, you're right. The page is displayed with the new comment.

My way of handling this has always been to do the comment in a new tab, keeping the former version of the page up in the first tab I can then return to.

So I don't remember how your system worked before.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 04:12:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We could easily have a diary about how people use ET, tips and tricks. By sharing, everyone could learn something, i'll bet. The makeover is a good time for it.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 06:46:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I just can't think of any change we've made that would trigger that. If you're sufficiently annoyed, you could try figuring out why it's happening. I don't have time to diagnose it right now or even to ask google.

Actually, I vaguely wonder if it's related to the comments not displaying problem people are getting periodically.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 06:53:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
i have a problem in the comment box, OSX on FF. the font is huge and floats on top of the diary list.. if i put the cursor over my text, it 'connects' to the diary list's links underneath instaed.

it used to happen but command- would scale it down to legible levels. now it shrinks the comment and cuts off both sides.

(in case anyone's wondering why there are a lot of typos lately!

whle we're at it, the 'new' thingy was always a bit wonky, if i read a comment in recent comments, it would still show up as new if viewed in it's diary, salon or OT.

sometimes the recent comments comes up with just one or two comments, refreshing doesn't help, and it corrects itself after a variable while.

last gripe... when i give a 4 in the comment replies, they don't take, though they look like they do, when you go see the comment in context, it remains  4'd.

the comment font size issue is fine in chrome.


"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 06:40:05 PM EST
oops, i meant UN-4d in the penultimate line.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jan 18th, 2013 at 06:45:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
melo:
if i read a comment in recent comments, it would still show up as new if viewed in it's diary, salon or OT

Not a bug. The software runs the "new comment" count on the basis of the fully opened story. View via Recent Comments or a comment search doesn't count. Can't be changed.

melo:

sometimes the recent comments comes up with just one or two comments, refreshing doesn't help, and it corrects itself after a variable while.

Probably just the moment when the Newsroom is being made in advance of posting. So not a bug, just a temporary annoyance.

I don't know about the comment edit box font size issue, if it only occurs in FF. But check Profile>Settings>Interface Preferences to see if you have a font and font size set. If so, delete those settings and Save Preferences.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jan 19th, 2013 at 02:00:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Might have been reported already -there's quite a long thread- but the comments counts give very strange results. Typically, there will be many more than expected (maybe the counts don't update when I refresh the page)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 19th, 2013 at 01:46:56 PM EST
In Recent Comments, some comments have the Parent link below, others don't.


by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 21st, 2013 at 07:50:58 AM EST
Top-level comments don't have parents.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 21st, 2013 at 07:57:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Duh... And I didn't notice that before...

However, I had to post that image via a pic hosting site since, though it uploaded OK to site files, it wouldn't display.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 21st, 2013 at 08:15:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I am trying to edit one of my diaries but I am not allowed to. Whenever I click on edit it takes me to a page where the diary is displayed but there is no ability to edit - it says: "story is in show mode and cannot be edited"

Any ideas?

Orthodoxy is not a religion.

by BalkanIdentity (balkanid _ at _ google.com) on Sun Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:01:52 AM EST
I'm not liking how the news diary is presented on the front page. From my viewpoint, one of the values of ET is to collect news stories from sources that I, being a clueless American, might not otherwise look at, and to highlight them as a counterbalance to CNN/CBS/Fox/etc.

As it is set up now, the news diary is hidden below a big banner and the open threads. The open threads are fun but maybe not as important as the news.

So my suggestion is to reverse these two items, putting the news stories over the open diaries.

by asdf on Mon Feb 4th, 2013 at 10:51:02 AM EST
asdf:
my suggestion is to reverse these two items, putting the news stories over the open diaries

This has come from others too.

Makes sense to me.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2013 at 04:18:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Looks good. :-)
by asdf on Fri Feb 8th, 2013 at 11:34:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Just noticed that if you select the title of a reply (e.g. "Pope diary"), it activates like a hot link, but isn't...
by asdf on Tue Feb 12th, 2013 at 11:47:00 AM EST
Or "Re: Welcome to ET 2.0"
by asdf on Tue Feb 12th, 2013 at 11:47:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]
i wish the open threads were back on the top of the front page instead of buried in the middle.

is it just that ETers are busier in the evenings, or is blogging energy getting routed more into diary commenting and what-used-to-be-salons?

have to see site stats to know i guess...

open threads have lost out in the change, what would be interesting is if other features have gained, if any, and whether others miss the OT's, which were the most playful side of the site.

not serious enough maybe!

overall i love the changes, just a bit sad to see the sun setting on the OT's.

quite remarkable what the 'social engineering' of relocating once-familiar links can do to site traffic.

are we so visually controllable?

cue refrain: "correlation is not causation"

guess we can do what we did elsewhere, maybe we were having too much fun posting silly pics while rome is burning...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2013 at 09:04:18 PM EST
The Newsroom was moved to the top in response to comments by metatone, eurogreen, and asdf, who pointed out that this was a feature of ET that should be promoted to newcomers/occasional visitors.

I don't understand the word "buried". On my screen there is a very clear "A Place To Talk" banner bang smack in the middle. If regular community members here can't find that, then the fabled smartness of ETers perhaps needs revising downwards?

There are no site stats on "hits" received by the OT (or any other diary).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2013 at 03:55:53 AM EST
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